Having braved that HUGE tranch of text, I have to say, the AWP can be used effectively by skilled players, but this does not mean it doesn't do huge amounts of damage.

It is possible to kill people on 100 health by shooting them in the foot.

Getting close to an AWPer is nigh on impossible, even with flash-bangs. They won't just be on their own, they'll have team-mates.

Sure, it's good for skilled players in wars, but for the public server, just keep it off.

The close range thing is an issue. I can definitely say that I have killed more people at close range firing point blank with no-scope when I've randomly picked up an AWP, and I have NO skill in it at all.

I say ban it on the public server. If you love sniping, then use the scout. It does less damage but can still kill people.

That's what I say anyway. I don't play as much CSS as a lot of you, which probably leads onto a whole load of criticism of my anti-AWP argument, but I think my points are valid.

Flame me. At your peril.

One per team. Stop these arguements >.< its just a game and its just a gun.

Personally I think this has gone offtopic a bit, it all seems to be about skill etc. While I agree that the AWP is a skilled weapon, if a few good players start awping, the game becomes quite boring, as it then become all about the sniper rifles. Also, the method of counter works, but not everyone can successfully orchestrate them every time, and I'm sure the AWPers can adapt.

Helly: ATM it looks like a fairly decent discussion, noone is actually flaming.

*bored*

one per team, keep petty arguments to yourself over skills required etc. If you're tired of being killed by it, find other ways to play. Or disconnect. Or whatever. It's only a game .

The restrict plugin crashes.

Well personally I have no problems with the AWP being used. There are flaws and strenghts in every weapon - highlighted by the classes in the much-loved TF2. It's only a game, if you don't like something then don't play? I don't see why this is so hard for people sometimes. Everyone using an AWP is boring, I agree. So disconnect and play TF2 and let the AWPers do what they find interesting. There is no need for flaming. Or play L4D, or whatever. You can't people how to play CSS the same way people won't listen to you telling them how to play any other game.

Well that's settled then

"Tranch"?

Anyway, it's part of the game, deal with it.
I agree that someone with an AWP can be infuriating, but if you could kill someone in one shot every time, wouldn't you?

It's just so silly arguing over it all the time -.-. After all, spys insta kill with backstabs etc. so if a good player plays it, you get killed a lot. There is no need to then restrict spies, it's just part of the game, as is everything. If you get upset about it, you can ask someone to stop playing with the AWP but you can't tell them to play, if they want to AWP or backstab or whatever it's up to them. If you're unhappy they continue to backstab or AWP or closet camp or triple jump with a scout or camp the bombsite or have bad rates or any other excuse they're ruining you're fun then just leave! Preferably without a rage post on the forums <3

Gogo anti-rage Wynney!

@ Metritutus- this is PUBLIC, who on earth on your team will actually work with you?! Seriously, I always get killed using the AWP as my team never stay near me to protect me whilst I take you on. They run around doing their thing (ask Ogris about this and he will agree) so taking the AWPer out is easier than you think. The only time I'm helped is by Ogris, Kriss or Hellfire because they are my friends. On public, no-one helps you out, no-one cares about you, you are on your own and having an AWP is dangerous when they flank you and get close to you. I always spoke about skill because people don't seem to realise how difficult the AWP is to use.
@ Wynney- you always know how to make a point
@ Si- how did the restrict plugin crash?
@ Skillers- yes, no flaming at all I agree that everyone AWPing can get boring so I do agree that it should be restricted to 1 per team, that way I can keep my AWP without anyone complaining as I get killed more times than I kill with the AWP.

Opinion: restrict to 1 per team and solve this arguement.

Hawke

The restricting isn't working at the moment so it can't be done right now. People are working on it but there time isn't unlimited - especially when all people do it moan about the result. Considering the number of anti-awp users, I can't see how so many are apparently being used.
Cash is currently starter of $5000, this is enough for an awp without grenades (up to one flash or a diffuse kit). Flash into site, get the bomb down, play (EDIT: bad spelling)smart, force the AWP to push and kill that person. Or defend the site and force the AWP to push and same result. They then have no money to buy an AWP for a couple of rounds.

Obviously, the admins are working on setting up the css server, it takes time, so be greatful for what you already have...

I Admit, It Has Its Disadvantages But You Can Shoot Somebodys Arm That Sticks Out And They Get Killed. If It Was On A War Server, Then Obviosly Go For The Strong Gun, But The Lamest Thing Is Awps Wont Ever Be Baught By A BOT?

If Were Aloud Awps, So Are They.

Its Just BOTist.



Ban The Awp, It Sucks Fun Out Of Pub Servers. I Admit, I Cant Use It, And It Takes So Mutch Skill, But It Does Just Hit And Kill...

If You Kept Dieng Round After Round, Then You Knnow, Youre Not Having Fun.

It depends how you're killed, when i try to ninja and usp only on the pub it's always great fun ^^

TYVM especially with this being the day of Lolgasm's launch, I am running around alot more than usual.

AWP on fun servers is crap.. Thats all I have to say.

Yea, and a good point brought up by Chicken.

Sure, the AWP might be a powerful weapon that needs skill, but it's no fun on a fun server.

The AWP is far better off in wars where winning is the most important thing rather than fun.

If a working restrict plugin is installed, ban it outright I say. If there's a special occasion where people want it enabled for a bit, an admin can do it.

Flame me.

No Fames!! I Agree Met, Look For A Plugin That Will Work, So Si Doesnt Have Too. (i Would But I Have No Clue, And Cba )

What about THIS

http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=515684

I don't think so.


Chicken, I've already given him a link to a different plugin. It's this:

http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=56863

Sold

I like the sound of that punishment mod, lol.

Line 3: LIES! Having fun in wars is more important than winning

4: I don't mind about the restirction, it's at the admins discretion.

5: YOU BLOODY FOOL (you asked to be flamed ^^)

I dont use an awp, i have recently when playing bots on the server on crane, i know what your thinking ......yes dull map and very sad owning bots. BUT, to be fair to all you awpers, its like what helly said on the server the other night, ITS A GUN IN THE GAME

'DEAL WITH IT'

i dont personally like it cus its the ONLY GUN HAWKE CAN USE, and ofcourse getting owned by Hawke is hardly the way forward .

To be honest, im happy wid any decision cus there are plus sides for every voting option .

Also we could just have Awp-user freindly rounds? and therefore Non-Awp user freindly rounds???

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