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Just been rooting around. L4D411 seems to be a good fansite.

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Versus mode is a completely different beast. This mode is aimed at those thirsty for human vs human competition. Four human players play as the Survivors and face off against four human players playing the boss infected. The boss infected players spawn 20 seconds after they are killed in combat, being able to choose their spawn location by walking around as a ghost until they find the perfect ambush spot. This quick spawn time makes Versus mode absolutely brutal to the Survivor team. On top of that, the only place where Survivors are able to respawn is at the next map.

Just like campaign mode, you choose a specific campaign to play through. The first team plays as the Survivors through the first map until they reach the end or until they all die off. The two teams switch spots, so the former Survivors are now acting as the boss infected and the former boss infected are now playing as the Survivors. After the map is completed, scores are tallied based on various factors and the cycle repeats on the next map in the campaign. This continues all the way until the finale map is completed for both sides, at which point the final score is shown and a victor declared.

Versus mode is currently the only mode where human players can choose to play as the boss infected.


Doesn't seem to say whether there are normal infected, and it would seem crazy hard with them, but kind of boring without them (not DM style maps).

EDIT: Video! Looks like there are regular infected, but not as many as usual.

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whats all this i've been hearing about a matchmaking service and not being able to have your own private server??? :/

Please... expand...

If this is true i'll try the demo before i even order it.

By what people are saying it seems to be getting worse by the minute :no:

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Simply put, Valve didn't put a server browser into it, so you have to use a console-like matchmaking system, which just shoves you ingame with 3 random people on either a random server or a server running on one of their machines, chosen randomly.

Si found a couple of things last night about this, though;

By typing "openserverbrowser" into console you can get eh server browser.
Servers can be passworded to stop matchmakers joining.

As you can guess, we will be setting up our servers still, they will be passworded (something like "lololol") and then we can actually play the game properly.

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Also, as soon as I start the server, 4 people join, players are waaaaay overnumbering server numbers atm.

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Yeah, hence the use of a random person's computer. There wn't be many deds set up by people who don't know much as the mathmaking system means they will very rarely actually use their own server. The people who do know will set up passworded servers for themselves.

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Problems eh! What benefit does the matchmaking system bring?

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It brings the benefit that your system is now a console.

I am so, so sorry.

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No looking for servers, I guess, but most people have no problems with that. I guess it also means there are enough servers as normally people aen't willing to host on home machines.

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LOL. That's one way to make someone reconsider a preorder :P

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It did for me, though I think I will get it now we know about the workarounds and it being only £23 on Play.

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i think it's just a demo thing, that had the random matchmaker working thy had the demo working so they threw it out.

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Yeah, I'm not going to get this until Christmas now. as I don't think I can get the money to buy the cheaper pre-order price but I KNOW I'll have enough money after/on xmas

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Left 4 Dead Demo Update Released
November 6, 2008, 7:57 pm - Jason Ruymen - Product Update
Updates to Left 4 Dead Demo have been released. The updates will be applied automatically when your Steam client is restarted. The specific changes include:

Left 4 Dead Demo


Fixed several issues with matchmaking and password protected servers

Tuned matchmaking to provide better search results

Fixed bug where servers could stay reserved by matchmaking forever

Performance optimizations and fixes to networking layer

Fixed issue where game could cause Steam executable to use too much CPU

Fixed music resetting when changing video settings

Fixed some issues with not being able to chat and/or connect to other users


just thought i'd highlight this update.

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That looks good, but still they shouldn't have made matchmaking the only official way (server browser available but hidden). It's not like it would have been hard for them to impliment a proper server browser, infact, disabling it probably made more work as they already have all the server browser stuff with Steam (I added a L4D server to my favourites when we were messing, and it just hid it).

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Well if you can get around the matchmaking (thus keeping the joy of PC gaming) then I'll definately Pre-order it (I have just enough money left after FC2 and assassin's)

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We have the ways around the matchmaker system.

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I dont like the sound of this, i just know im gonna be on a gay lil server with special people who are good at the game and do it all and you dont see a zombie.! :( this game sounds really good, looksa really good but the multiplayer seems to me like they just threw it out of the window. :(

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Chicken, we've found simple ways around it, so we can play on our server :D

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Just so people know, we're back to normal operations with L4D as our 3rd server.

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