Has ne1 heard of this particle machine they have in switzerland? Apparently, they are using it 2 try and discover a new particle but the experiment has a 1 in 50000000 chance of creating a black hole which wud destroy the universe very slowly. Shouldnt we all be panicking cus surely any chance of creating a black hole we shud be worried about. Any1 want 2 count down 2 their possible death, it's being used next wed (10 sep)

The Large Hadron Collider at CERN? That machine is awesome, and the chance is it won't destroy the universe. Actually, I think that is impossible, it would have to be a massive black hole to do that. Still, won't destroy the planet either.

If it works properly, we will find out so much about the universe making science progress a lot.

Gotta love making people panic with science experiments

50 million in 1 chance of black hole.

Teh world is gonna end!

Yes i know thats more than 1

Roflamo

A black hole with the diameter of two hydrogen atoms, I'M SCARED, the half life of that thing must be like 1 second.

Also, two hydrogen atoms don't have nearly enough mass to create a self-sustaining black hole, even our sun doesn't have enough, now this collider is gonna make a black hole out of 0.0000000000001% of that? Yeah, no.

Ogris, it could create one with the conversion of energy to mass, as with E=MC^2. The reason people are worrying is that the amount of energy involved in this is much greater than anything ever done before. Lots of other strange things could happen too, and that's the whole point of the experiment.

Our star the sun.

Supernova.

Implosion.

Thousand times more energy.

No Black hole.

Our Sun doesn't have enough mass to compress into a black hole, it's gravitational field can't overcome the force pushing the atoms outwards.

Also, the Sun's energy density is comparably tiny.

The reason people are worried is because nothing like this has ever happened before. You can have a tiny black hole that can barely affect anything, it's just a point of incredible density that can bend light towards itself (hence black), though only in a very small area.

I agree, a black hole of cataclysmic size is negligibly likely as there isn't enough energy. There is still a high chance of a minature, unstable black hole. I think the black hole thing is blown out of proportion, though, there are loads of things that could happen that we simply don't know about.

Thing is, it cant swallow what it cant grab.

2 hydrogen atom diameter, yeah, i'm not so sure.

But if the sun cant implode, these things wont do much IMO, besides, isnt gravitational pull proportionate to MASS? yeah, cause 2 hydrogen atoms have more mass then uhh everthing.

when u spped an object near the speed of light is mass increased exponecialy ( i think ) creating an untold posable gravitation feild

While it is, i seriously doubt it will happen, i just don't believe there will be enough energy and mass.

the chances are as its so small it is posable to creat a black hole but it wouldnt g able to even engulf the surounding science equipment so its just a bit of spin realy lol

"Can't swallow what it can't grab" That is actually the reason I doubt any serious black holes will occur - it's mostly a vacuum, nothing there.

This 2 hydrogen atom thing... It's wrong, they are colliding hadrons, aka Protons (and Neutrons [which are hard to collide because they aren't charged] and other, more exotic, particles). A hydrogen atom is a proton and an electron, and that electron makes a lot of difference (massive difference in size [from a pinhead to a large room], tiny difference in mass).

Gravity has the formula of g=Gm/r^2, where G is a constant, m is the mass of the object and r is the distance from the centre of the object. This means that something incredibly dense can have strong gravity at it's surface. Something made entirely of hadrons is incredibly dense.

Still, any serious black hole is highly unlikely. I'd be more worried about the stuff we don't think about.

Well, it could explain the creation of the universe... that is pretty much the reason they are doing this.

They really want to find the Higgs Boson. I think it's an attempt to properly explain mass and gravity.

Whatever they find out, it should be good

'the god particle'
will be interesting to see if it actually exists
more interesting if it does not

The first test happens on Wednesday 10th.

Be prepared to get swallowed by that big black hole guys.

Well, apparently, if a black hole is made, it wud take 4 years for it 2 swallow the earth. Therefore we wud all be slowly dragged 2wards switzerland. I wonder what tht wud be like?

heh, too many unknowns to say exactly what will happen when this things turns on, but i think a strong enough black hole would distort time, so you could watch people trying to run away in slow motion. looking away people would appear to have super speed.

We'd go through some spaghettification.

XD
Thts my favourite scientific term ever!!

BEST WORD EVAR!!!!

I even managed to get it into one of the science exams xD

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/09/09/terri ... -collider/
Oh gods, we're so doomed!!!
But seriously, not much is gonna happen, but I'm eagerly hoping the LHC can answer some of the pressing questions in physics.

Awesome find there, Rennac!

Who wants to bet that scientist modelled himself after Gordon for the lulz?

There's also been talk of this creating a wormhole into the future, lol.

why this now popping up everyhwere??? i thought this was old news cus i remeber hearing about it like 2 years ago?