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f anyone is interested in acquiring Valve, VP Doug Lombardi is "happy to have that conversation," he told Gamasutra in a recent interview."By the same token, the company's doing pretty well, and we're really happy with what we're doing," he added.

"So we'll see. I mean, anything is possible."

Valve's relationship with Electronic Arts, who will publish its upcoming Left 4 Dead, is "really good," said Lombardi, especially after what he referred to as "the Vivendi divorce."

"We had been socialized to doing so many things ourselves, whether it's box creation, funding our own development, etcetera," he said, "that when we came to meet with folks about a distribution deal - and I use that phrase intentionally - we were looking for somebody to do a certain set of services that we didn't want to do, or weren't versed in, and nothing more."

All of those "distribution deal" conversations, Lombardi said, were fraught with extra offerings that Valve wasn't interested in taking. "We're like, 'You know, we're really comfortable doing those pieces of the business ourselves, and that's what we want to do,'" Lombardi recalled.

EA's support for Steam, he continued, was part of what sowed the seeds of a healthy relationship.

"EA was very progressive about saying, 'We understand who you guys are. We understand what Steam is. We don't want Steam to go away.' Well, they might want Steam to go away, but they're not asking us to make Steam go away."

The "valuable add" of EA's distribution power to Valve's business was all the company needed from EA. "And [EA Partners] is obviously in a sweet spot right now. I mean, all publishers go through personality changes, and that caused them to be at better points in time," said Lombardi.

"You know, I came out of Sierra, and at the time, Sierra was Half-Life, Homeworld, the Caesar games, and a couple other games that were really great," he continued.

"There were some good people there, and if you asked developers and whatnot, 'What publishers have got things going on?' they'd say, 'Oh, I met the guys from Sierra Studios, and they're really cool, and they've got a bunch of great games.'"

Ubisoft, said Lombardi, has also gone through various cycles - "You know, in the late '90s, they weren't the powerhouse that they are today."

"And EAP has obviously become a powerhouse now, with us, Crytek, Rock Band, the announcement with Carmack and the id guys. So, you know, they're enjoying some great days, and we enjoy working with them."

In Gamasutra's recent interview with id founder Carmack, he said he had prejudices about EA that he discussed ahead of forming a deal with the company, and one of his sounding boards was Valve.

"Yeah, yeah. Well, [Valve managing director] Gabe [Newell] had the same reaction when [COO] Scott [Lynch] and I came home from our roadshow of meeting with all the publishers, and we said, 'We think EA's the right choice.' He's like, 'You've got to be kidding me!'"

But once Newell met with those whom Lombardi called "the people that had impressed us," he relented.

"And we set up the deal so that it turned out that if EA was this evil empire, that it wasn't going to last forever," Lombardi said. "But it's turned out that all those scary stories - which, you know, maybe some of them were true, and maybe some of them are history; I don't know - haven't appeared to us; we haven't seen the boogeyman."

So to Carmack and id CEO Todd Hollenshead, Lombardi had words of advice on EA's strengths. "And, you know, humans aren't perfect. Issues come up. Publishing is hard, and we're doing it internationally, so things come up from time to time," he said.

"The cliché that I'm pushing is, it's not the cards you're dealt, it's how you play them. So, when things come up, the EA guys are very honest about it, they're accountable about it, and they're responsive. You can't ask for anything more than that."


THought I'd best let you know... Would stop me ever buying a Valve game again....

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Thank goodness if EA ever did take over, Steam would remain. That's all I wanted to know!

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Sounds like typical Valve philosophy, TBH. They are happy to have the conversation, and they keep their options open, but if you read between the lines they are saying their not open for sale, unless they get offered something that improves their product (not just money, we all know Valve REALLY care about the games they make).

As for EA, I think they have improved massively recently. Sure, they are still milking some cash-cows (Sims and Sports), but seem to care a lot more about the other games they make. From what I can gather they have left Bioware to pretty much their own devices for Mass Effect 2, just changing their name to EA wherever-they-are. The CnC series is improving greatly, it's not what WW envisioned (the major WW staff now run PetroGlyph), but it's swung back to the good and produces some pretty nice games.

Anyway, I doubt Valve would sell up, they're in a very strong position as probably the second most successful games company on the planet right now (after EA), due to the success of Steam and their high quality games.

Even if they did sell up, no company in their right mind would do anything but support their production of games, as they are undoubtedly the most POPULAR games company. The only problem it would bring would be deadlines, which Valve really don't like.

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EA aren't rubbish anymore
They aren't selling
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I think EA really took the 'EA is the Evil Empire' insults to heart.

Besides, if you look at the current C&C games, they're better than what was produced in Westwood's final moments...

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If you're referring to Generals, that was an EA production. If you mean the later DUNE games, they were a bit naff. If you meant RA2, you are crazy.

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Skillers wrote:
If you're referring to Generals, that was an EA production. If you mean the later DUNE games, they were a bit naff. If you meant RA2, you are crazy.


I mean Renegade.

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I'll never forgive EA for their general awfulness.

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thanks so much EA for all hte crap uve given us over hte years.
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Yeah, they've given us lots of rubbish, but I really think they're turning away from there quantity whoring now and actually producing some quality titles now.

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Problem is, if EA does take over valve, they will just turn them into an "EA Bellevulle" studio or something like that, EA only gives a shit about money, unlike valve.

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thanks so much EA for all hte crap uve given us over hte years.
Fifa, harry potter, Fifa, James bond, Madden, Fifa, boogie, and lets not forget Fifa.


You missed fifa, I don't think you mentioned it enough.

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Well there are atleast 10 FIFA games, lol, probably more.

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there are tooooo many fifa games. XD hate them. Hate EA
do valve make anything that isn't an FPS??

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Umm... nope I think thats all valve do, is FPSes.

Don't forget, Steam is uber and there are games based on their work (RACE anyone?)

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Valve themselves only make FPSes, and not many of them - Bascially HL2 and it's multiplayer options atm (+Portal). The Source engine ahs been used for official racing games and RPGs, and someone modded HL2 to an RTS.

Steam is their biggest contribution to gaming, and most PC gamers agree that it is fantastic.

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The latest and greatest news on this:

Google to buy Valve: http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/ ... ogle-valve

For those of you that don't know, Google own the Internet.

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Is this serious!?!?!? This would be most interesting. Though we'd have to drop PayPal for Google Checkout on steam :/

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I don't like PayPal much anyway so I'm cool with that ;)

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I really doubt that is true.

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It could be though, and it would be really good if true.

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I don't think it would be good, TBH.

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I just don't think it would be right for Google to be associated with Valve, they seem to do things differently.

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It would be *VERY* good from Valve's perspective... they would never have to worry about bandwidth bills ever again, and that's the best reason. Google are probably the best company to be bought out by.

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