Heh, you mean the console you own, lol. I'm not starting an argument, though. I'll get it on PC.

So, you liking it?

Grrr stupid police raid, cant get past it >:(

I know people who bought 360s just for this.

What the hell?!?!

It's OK. I haven't really spent much time on it; maybe about an hour.

I really hate controllers, they are awful.

Si, I got it on the PS3.

now thats stupid, i just happen to had a 360 lying around so i thought why not, as such i'm intrigued by the story and like the game but yeah there are flaws.

.....the story being

I haven't really been keeping tabs on the story line so far. I'm more in to crashing my car very fast in to people and watching the spray of blood. I've managed to do a double flip in the vehicle and I have been able to drive away... I haven't yet crashed so hard that my vehicle just exploded... The crashes are great! Sometimes the crashes are super-realistic and at other times they are sadly unglamorous... high speed careering in to walls sometimes doesn't result in many flips and crashes in to cars, but usually just scraping.

Still, I won't deny that it is fun and I have just been messing around on it for the last 3 hours or so!

Aaron, have you tried plugging a keyboard and mouse in? It works for some PS3 games.

I don't know the story of GTA IV, but the GTA games generally have a long story based around building reputation with gangs, then getting double crossed and the like.

According to Metacritic, it has finally shoved Ocarina Of Time off the top spot with the PS3 version scoring a perfect 100...

HOWEVER, accirding to Metacritic (The same website), the player review is just 83... Whereas the player Review for Ocarina of Time is 92! Looks like the reviewers missed something that the players have to suffer with... Laggy servers and the like?

Nope! The servers are definitely not laggy. I can confirm this as I have been playing the online mode for the last couple of hours without any problem.

Unfortunately, the game is not compatible with a keyboard and mouse. So it makes the targeting and shooting extremely slow and fiddly.

Heh... one of my online friends said he couldnt get onto GTA4 online at all the other day

Turn the sensitivity up... Thats what Ive done on the Orange Box, even on max its somtimes too slow for me... Nicholai cant cope with anything much higher than normal, which I find UBER FUCKING SLOW xD

Strange thing is the user reviews are mostly say 10, so it could be random voters trying to drag the game down. I really don't know. It doesn't appeal to everyone, certainly, but it is well made.

The problem with that is that it is still a controller... it's very inaccurate no matter what.

Yeah, that's the reason I'll hold out for the PC version. Most the GTA weapons are autoaim though, aren't they?

Yes, but it's flaky in multiplayer.

Ah, what does the multiplayer actually entail?

15 diff modes from what I heard...

Like free for all death match, races, objectives.... things like that I guess O.o

Yeah, there are a couple of deathmatch modes, and a few mission modes, and a few racing modes... but by far my favourite mode is the free mode, where you can just do anything you want with no objective.

And a friend joins you, so you can either fight or go on joint rampages etc?

Yes

Nice, I would actually enjoy doing that. can you do storyline missions with friends? I'm guessing no.

Also, I'm guessing GTA4 retains the semi-RPG elements of SA (strength etc), if so, do you keep those in multiplayer?

Actually no GTA 4 does not have the strength, fat, sex appeal, etc RPG style bars. They completely did away with it. Which i guess applies to the multi-player by answering everyone is on level ground. ^_^

And curse PS3 free online capabilities or I'd know what online play was like. 360 versions did all come with a free month of xbox live gold, but i'm saving it till after exams.

Yes, Xbox 360 really sucks for online gaming because of Xbox Live.

There is a levelling system of some sort - when I finished a game it said I needed 900 more points to reach Level 2...

Was that a minigame or something?

god this is annoying, a ring has appeared on the underside of the disc, how did i notice?

'The disc is unreadable'

:O my shock and upset

still currently i can play it, but some cut scenes i have to skip to avoid the error