Have any of you read either of these:

New weapons: http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/52236
New achievements: http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/52249

Read the achievements a min ago - some are good, some are horrible. Such as the heavy lover one, will annoy lots of people while these are being whored. I think I'll wait till after the initial rush to whore mine!

Weapons - Blutsaughter looks pretty good, and useful. Critzcrieg should be great fun, and the UberSaw looks great (though it seems against the philosophy of "no advantages for whoring"). What happened to the overhealer?

can u switch between the upgrades? E.g. use the crit uber charge once or the invunerable uber charge at another time?

OMG... A lot of those look REALLY difficult to do! Especially the "Hit uber less than a second before a crit hits your uber reciever" and the 30 kills in one life with the heavy... I mean seriously WTH?! Of us lot, I think its only Wigo who has even scored that many kills at all in one life... My best is 18

Most should be easy! I just don't like the way that people might start medic whoring making it suck for a day or two.

Oh yea, Sunday should be release day

I cant wait for the Snipers and Soldiers Those are going to be more awesome than the Medics, because I can play as Snoldier and Sniper XD I am kinda sucky at Medic, even tho I enjoy playing as him

sniper = the win.

Yeah, you can chose your loadout when you have unlocked the weapons. Though I can't actually see any disadvantages to the Ubersaw.

The achievement whoring is going to be terrible though, especially as everyone will try and do it at once. I will wait till after the initial rush to do mine.

I guess the UberSaw has a much shorter range than the BoneSaw? Otherwise its going to be WAY to kick ass....

Well its 20% slower.

there will be lots of backstabbing for spies now

Ah, it doesn't say that in the article you linked. 20% slower is a big deficit, but considering it allows much more ubers, it's worth it.

yeah bt ud only really be able to use it when sneaking up behind enemies really, so its a fair addition, in a confrontation when an enemy is facing u ud prob want the bone saw (quicker rate of attack and already gets a lot of crits as it is)

Erm, it doesn't crit more, it makes your ubercharge increase. Considering the bone/ubersaw should only be used when you've got something close, it's rate of attack isn't too big of an issue, but with the ubersaw you get that much need uber ready quicker. I'd want the new syringe gun for a confrontation, deals damage and heals yourself!

the bonesaw has a higher crit rate

From everything I've seen the bonesaw and ubersaw have the same critical rate. Heck, I even just stumbled across this, which says nothing about crit rate, even on their loadout screen pic. The bonesaw does have the highest crit rate of any weapon in the game, though, IIRC.

I just found this. OK, so it's mostly stuff we already know, but, I suggest you scroll down to the bottom...

I also found out, from elsewhere, that the release of this super patch should be on the 20th, this Sunday.

Si already said it would be tomorrow

Oooooh... Upgradable Dispenser and Teleporters I somehow think some of the team balance might be slightly scewed soon...

Because surely people who play less will be at a worse advantage because they cant get the achievements (and therefore better weapons) as fast? And that Engy upgrade looks WAY over power... How would you kill an Engy will a lv 3 sentry AND a lv 3 dispenser? Because I assume the dispenser will take more damage...

Oh, yeah, he did, that's here I read it then. I forget stuff! And it's not tomorrow, tomorrow is Saturday!

The idea behind the new weapons is that they won't be more powerful, just an alternative, to add more options to those who do play a lot, to make it more interesting. I think the only problem it will cause is achievement whoring, and some of the achievements require you to be a dedicated player to that class, so is more of a reward system for the uber weapons (ubersaw will be VERY rare for a long time).

As for the engineer stuff, it's not final yet, but currently Engineers are a bit screwed, there are lots of demomen around. Full plant of stickies around the sentry = dead engy nest. It's not too hard to kill engineers now, because tactics have been developed. Heck, I play pyro, and I can't actually move towards a level 2 sentry if it's shooting me, but sentries still don't scare me too much, I just have to find a way around them.

everything will be balanced fine, the only problem will be the whoring of classes (expect lots of ppl switching to medic when medic called on sunday) which will make the game tiresome, avoid for first few days i reckon!

Naa, go spy and backstab the buggers

except for the fact u still have to be a gd spy!

i play medic quite a lot anyway,. bt will be going sniper now (tht heavy achievement is a snipers best friend!)

They just put up meet the scout!!!
(Well, we know the AppID)
steam://run/5032

I would have thought they would have done the medic this weekend, cos it would fit.

Also, it looks like TF2 is on sale for this weekend, seems like they want to make a big deal over it!

lol dave is buying it tonight, if my thinking is correct!