Check out these Chieftec's on Specialtech

http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cus ... =17&page=1
http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cus ... =17&page=1
http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cus ... =17&page=1

I know Dan has the Dragon full-tower.

Thanks Another new site to me. The first link is what i would like. Have to follow the stock line.

Personally I dislike the Cheiftech Dragon cases, but then again, that's just taste. I've heard they are pretty decent cases, though, and very roomy. The original large tower.

I wanted one of those some time ago. If i remember correctly though, they were going for over a ton at the time. I like to use roomy cases even if i don't need to have that much.

My outlook on cases is that as long as they have decent enough ventilation to cater for high end components then I am not too bothered. If I could fit 3-way SLi and dual-socket quad-core with a strict front-back airflow, I would want the smallest possible case to do that with.

Remember the diagrams of the PowerMac G5 when it was first released? They touted one of its best features as being extremely quiet whilst catering for high-end components. This was because of the compartmented design and the strict front-back airflow.

The compartment design interests me, actually, as I'm not too sure how effective it actually is, as it blocks airflow in places. I think the windtunnel for CPUs was pretty good, personally, but perhaps a bit obtrusive.

Getting front to back airflow is something i miss. Once you have a case without a front intake, it makes it more difficult to plan your fan arrangement, for me anyway.

http://www.custompc.co.uk/reviews/15915 ... 2-lc.html#

This link was in the mag. There was a image of the compartments in the mag obviously, but alas not here. Shame really, because i think the HP looks very interesting as a concept. Whether it is 100% effective at the mo or not, i think overall it is a good idea.

I did not know about the G5 designs. Goona google it sometime.

Yeah, those blackbird cases have an interesting design with the floating unit and bottom in air inflow. It could provide interesting results, but I still think that it could be gimmicky.

One thing I'd like to see is more different shaped cases, like those from mountainmods (but smaller), as not everyone has room for tower cases, and cubic cases can just be more convenient.

Interesting layout, but I can't make out where the graphics are?

I can't ethier. Could they be onboard, second compartment - top down?

That was the only place I could see it being, as that is where the PCI slots are. However, that would mean the graphics card would be back to front.

What if the GPU is onboard with the I/O's through traces to the I/O ports.

It could be, but IIRC the G5 used commercial graphics cards, like the GeForce 7900s.

If you look at this picture, you can clearly see where the graphics cards would go...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... 5_open.jpg

And as for graphics: http://www.apple.com/lae/powermac/graphics.html

Ah, so it is a normal graphics card, just above the boxes, except it's got a puny cooler. Then again, it is fairly old, from the days of tiny heatsinks!

I remember when these machines first arrived, but never actually saw one though. These were ground breakers right??

Yeah, the G5s were incredibly powerful machines back in their days, I believe.

According to the adverts on TV, they were wall breakers


Watch this video on Youtube.

Heh, back before Apple did minimalist ads!

Back when I watched TV...

Can i have opinions on this kit please. Looks enticing to me, but not sure about the 590 Chipset? Like the mobo and Ram manufacturers. Thanks.

Oh yeah forgot the Link Doh... http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.aspx?sku=341074

Not too bad, though it seems a tad expensive, tbh, and a bit dated (I think). Asus and A-Data are good manufacturers, though.

This might be worth considering around the same price, though personally I'd just buy the components separately and get what I want (the Intel chipsets are apparently better than the nForce ones, aswell).

Also note that you will need a 64bit OS to recognise a full 4GB of RAM.

Yeah. That brings into the light, the need to have Vista, but i don't want it. Obvious sacrifice ofc. Thanks for the link, but i just can't do that!