Got an idea about cutting a channel in a mobo tray. Basically i have formed an idea regarding the cabling. Figured on two access points and one channel for the ATX power cable, which is a 20 Pin using a 24 Pin connector, which is very long. In addition, two holes on the top right and bottom left. But... can i do this and if i have the depth in between?

Probably a silly qeustion, but never considered if the tray is solid for a reason. Thanks

The tray serves two purposes, as far as I know;

Most importantly, it holds the motherboard in place, rigidly, aslong as it can still do this, it's fine.

It can also server as a ground point, I think, but this is unnecessary.

Basically, just make sure the tray is still strong and fiarly rigid, and you should be fine. I believe this (well similar) is quite a popular mod, actually.

Yeah man, saw a cool image where this had been done. I will try and remember where. It was the grounding thing that i was worried about.
Will use extra long sata cables and molex extenders too. Im wondering if i could affect a bend in the main power connector, but then again, there is probably a aftermarket product out there. Got to be done ethier way.

Typically, the ATX power cable will be unsheathed so it's quite easy to just bend in a right angle from the mobo, unless you mean bend it all the way round?

I had it bent all the way around in my old system and behind the motherboard tray. Luckily there was enough room between the motherboard tray and the side of the case for the cable to fit, along with loads of others actually. I was using a Coolermaster WaveMaster with an Enermax Noisetaker 600W.

It probably depends on the PSU as to how well it works. Mine would still stick out a lot as it's got a pretty heavy duty braiding on it (very inflexible), but with a slightly more flexible one, it would probably work quite well.

Well, i was thinking of using a Stanley to score the housing, and then prise the top part back up on itself. I think that would be an easier thing to accomplish than trying to create a cut angle. My Hiper has heavy sheathing too, and forcing the cables does have a risk of internal kinking, however slight.

Fortunately on my mobo, the SATA ports are on the edge of my mobo making for a neat cable run. Going to mount my Barracuda backwards. Currently mounted backwards in my case due to fixings. Right time to go off on a tangent....

Would a typical Aluminum case support two Dual Rads on the top?

Sounds like a good idea.

A typical one won't. Just think about the size. Each one is greater than 120x240mm, as they are 2 120mm fans. I think it's typically 10mm all the way round and about 50mm on the barb end, bringing the total to 140x300mm per rad. Trying to fit two (side by side) in the top section of a standard case would be hellishly hard. You're looking at a fairly big case needed, moving a radiator somewhere else or creating some extra housing for them.

Anyway, seems like you're up to a lot of modding, show us pics when you're done!

If you have room below the motherboard tray...

Was going to get a CPC approved cheap case. Anyway the problem i have is, the Swiftech units are designed to mount fan brackets. It would mean no rear exhausting other than the Rad. The case does have a 25CM bracket on the side window panel. I think that may not be that good, good cooling, but a lot of air bouncing around. Don't matter too much at the moment, on a real tight budget, so will leave the GPU LC until later. A cheap case would be better in case i screw up!

If i don't have space under the board, i will go around it. I hope!

I don't think the side fans are too bad, bouncing air may be a problem, but with enough extraction, it should be alright.

A cheap case will generally be small, so it will be a nice challenge for watercooling. You will probably end up sacrificing a couple of 5.25" bays for the radiator, if mounted at the top. Mounting on fan brackets is not a problem, as that is basically just drilling the right holes.

Probably be easier to mount the Rad as intended, then fit two 120mils to the top. One with a bottom mounted Psu would be a good idea. Not sure how numerous those types are though.

There are quite a lot of bottom mounted PSU cases nowadays. Lian Li likes them a lot, as do others. I think they tend to be mid to high price, though.

yeah that is the conundrum i face. Been tying to plan this mod for some months, if not a year, but the trade off is this. High end case( i really would like that Mirage 62) keeping my 6600 GT. The converse is a 40quid case, but enabling me to purchase a greater than Graphics Card.

I will finally have that Samsung 20inch by one and a half weeks. I believe the choice is somewhat obvious, but your opinion would be welcomed. I don't have a conflicting opinion, but i do have doubts!

Ah, the Eclipse (older Mirage) is a great case, I've had one for 4 years now, really roomy.

20inch monitors are wonderful. I've got a fairly old one here and it's so nice having all the space. It's getting a bit old and seems to be damaged (off colours along the top and a dead pixel) but it's still good. I don't know much about the Samsung.

Komplett are selling the 22incher for 200quid. Ok, you and the others are avid gamers right. What is most important to you in terms of specs. Fast response is an obvious one, what else? One thing i can never see is the inferior colours between different Monitors.

As long as the screen has a good visibility and colour correctness, it's alright for gaming. I generally just read reviews and see what people think about them. Experience means more than specs.

Yeah. Ilyama's have pretty much been my choice. Colour correctness is not usually something i notice that much, unless it is blatantly obvious in a game or other prog i am using. Assuming that was what you meant in your answer. Colour blending right and quick enough at it (Monitor)?.

Yeah, pretty much. Just having colours that look right, unlike red skin etc.

I don't really have a monitor preference, though, this one is a Viewsonic VP201s.

You might find that the upcoming Coolermaster Cosmos S is your thing. It will house a 3x120 rad at the top without requiring any case modification. The Cosmos S looks like the side-on removable hard-drive caddies have been deprecated, and instead just standard steel brackets have been used. It might be good to whack the pump in the space that has been made availble there. Cosmos S is supposed to be a watercooler's dream but at the moment it is unreleased, though there have been product demo's.

I haven't seen the Cosmos S, but I think the original was meant to be a pretty good case.

The original case is good, but mostly steel.
I dislike steel cases.

Ah, yeah, steel is far to heavy. Aluminium FTW!

Well yes, I'd suggest you try and find a good sized case, otherwise you'll have fun trying to fit it all in.

I still rate the WaveMaster as the most friendly case to work in. Though it is small as it is thin.

I've seen the Wavemasters, they're quite stylish, but I don't think they're the best inside. Never had to work with one, though.