Also it depends on how u aim... If your using the remote will you aim with the sensor bar? Because that alone would give a huge advantage to Wiimote users over classic and GC pads...Much much faster at pointing at a specific target.

Its one of the inbetweeney ones i reckon... Not brillaint... but not too shoddy either... Currently only DK's looks absolute pap XD

That's a good point, I instantly assumed it would be Wiimote, but I forgot other methods were possible :/ Maybe it will change depending on control method.

DHR-107 There have always been 5 colours of pikmin in both games and the 2nd was more sucessfull than the first!!! so yeah...hes not broken (yet) becuse noones played as him we dont know how hell work, if he picks out the pikmin fast (faster than peaches turnips) then i think hell be ok, hell be like pokemon trainer you have to watch their stamina so you know when to change for olimar youll have to keep an eye on your pikmin levels adding new strategy to the game rather than basic button smashing.

Snakes FS was a pleasent surprise i like the look of it picking off characters one by one with 18 bullets easy to get instant KOs me thinks.

The Alloy things look so awesome!!! so much better than the wire frames and polygons mcwhatsits from N64 and melee.

So far this year we have had pretty gd updates seeing as we had about a month of any interesting news. KEEP THEM ROLLING!
We are getting close to the Japanese release date! ALL news will be out by then including hopefully the UK release date Fingers crossed it is in Q1 or Q2 (at least)

and yes link does look awesome but..... SONIC/ SAMUS/PEACH FTW!!! i need to get my wii back online :/ before this comes out..

I do hope it is a Q1 release, otherwise it's stupid.

Also, the updates are probably getting better due to the impending release meaning that no data will be hidden after that, unless they release big update, which is unlikely.

Urghh you guys

Im only here to say that i think Yoshi looks like croc!! AND CROC RULED!!

also.. ive not really read anything tht uve all put... cz id prob end up asleep...

The game needs spyro!! END OF.

LOL. I don't think Spyro will be in it. He might make an interesting character if he was, because he has lots of different attacks.

What Demonata?!

Spyro won't be in as he's an in house Sony product... :/

Today was Olimars special moves... His B is pluck the Pikmins... then the other B moves are simply arranging them! B down brings them all back to you... You can throw them, some do cling damage... Others do Knockback and damage...

Currently... Hes still looking broken :/ But the pikmin are used as smashes... with the red (giving incendiary) and yellow (electrical) extra damage...

DHR, it's like me saying Gordon Freeman or something should be in it.

Anyway, I still don't think Olimar is broken. Remember, he will be balanced, to make sure he isn't/ So the pikmin attacks might be very powerful, or the random element might make him hard to counter.

Cpn Olimar isnt broken (any more) he look quite gd actually. In outr msn convo DHR i was wrong XD they arent ranked they do different stuff tho the blues tdo seem to suck XD yellow or red are the best imo. His FS can only be one thing tbh which is an army of them or you pick out an unlimited amount in the time limit which all attack?? i dont know looking forward to it!
All we neeed now is... his FS zelda moveset and FS and i think we are done on the character front for the time being unless they relaease a new character which they better do!!! MIDNA or LUIGI or CPN FALCON!

2 weeks left until releae date in Japan that is 10 days of updates left untill we should know everything! Hopefully 6 of them will be characters
the 6 being:
Luigi
Ganondorf
Cpn Falcon
Jigglypuff
Midna (maybe) new character but the one i want in most CUS SHE'LL ROCK!
new character
new character

Only 9 updates...

For some reason they are releasing on a Thursday O.o

Yeah, we still don't have enough information on Zelda... Something is up with her I'm sure of it. IMO Olimar still looks very broken. Unless his "Pikmin Pull" is studiply fast, and some of his moves crazily overpowered, he'll be very unbalanced... :/ He'll end up being the Pichu of this game imo....

ok NOTHING can be as bad a Pichu NOTHING!! Camilla parker bowles would be a better character for crying out loud. How can you say hes broken you havent played as him yet? He wont be unbalanced :s hell be normal just his moves will take a while to get used to. Like i said in an above post hes completely different more of a strategic character like Pokemon Trainer. I think there are more to come of these.
And yeah somethign is deffiantly up with Zelda. I think the big question is whether shiek will return or not im thinking no, which is a shame.

and WHAT? whys it released ona thursaday????????????? most are releaased on fridays!

LMAO! Camilla Parker Bowles XD

I don't like the way the Up Specials arent Jumps either...Most of them it seems are being grapples of some form... I prefer proper B ups that have a jump element... Atleast its more useful than having to perfectly time a grapple movement X

He does look broken. If he turns out to be Ok... Ill... errrm... do something XD I know... I'll play as him on a WiFi match with you lot xD

Strategy in playing a character... It might over complicate things slighty... it tough enough keeping track of your own character sometimes... Let alone 6 other Pikmin XD

Hmm, ash, you say Zelda and Sheik... Maybe Sheik will be Zelda's FS, working like Samus'...

The B ups aren't mostly grapples, I've only seen a couple...

As for Olimar, I'd guess he picks things up pretty quickly and his attacks will be fairly powerful. The only problem being that you can't just button smash, making him a high skill character. That, or you can reuse pikmin.

Aelda turning into sheik for FS? like Samus?.....what Zeldas dress just blows off wiping everyone on map then she dresses like shiek XD um i dont think so somehow. It would be nice to see Sheik return because well zelda sucked on melee you played as her so you could be shiek.. well i did XD

and there is only one u and b move that grapples and that is Cpn Olimars. Samus can grapple but thats her grab and same with link. With CPN olimar im guessing it can latch onto paltfroms above and pull him up that way. maybe also if you hit someone it may hurt them? I dunno well have to see.

Oh yeah, I half forgot about the blast. Maybe she could just turn into Sheik and Sheik would be a really powerful fighter, but would only last until KOed or something. Would make it interesting.

Ivysaur... ZS Samus, Lucas... :/ Ok maybe not a lot... But its enough to put me off using them. No... Sheik as an FS wouldnt work. Its not... different enough. Sheik had her own style in Melee... but Zelda was also very good if you could utilize her magic powers. Sheik became a top tier because of her Up and Down smashes being particularly good, her side smash wasnt anything special, and was certainly weaker than Zelda's... Zelda also had much better jupming moves, and an incredible B Up range....

Well just because something was like something in Melee doesn't mean it can't change. It was an idea, anyway.

Im still set on the idea its TriForce based like Link's. Im guessing it could involve one of her final moves in TP... or some form of very powerful magical move. Bowser is the closest to actually changing character in his FS... I just doubt they would do something similar with Zelda, as, so far, all the FS's are very different....

Nah Zeldas FS is obv going to be Light arrows! Its all she can do. She used light arrows in OOT and WW and TP so its obv that. Just how are they going to do it? are they going to do it like Snake FS? or are the arrows going to home in on people?

Ah true... But theyd be a lot like Pit's wouldnt they in that case... Just a shit load more powerful! Aiming for all these moves is going to be tough. I don't think Zelda will leave the screen tho... That would be kinda random... :/

yeah seeing as she doesnt have a helicopter to hang from XD
she may her triforce to like trap them??? and teh shoot the crap out of them?

Doesn't Link use the TriForce trap? So that would be exactly the same...

exactly the same as links??????????? um not quite... have you even seen links? he uses a SWORD!! not arrows they both have a triforce so they might aswell use it in similar ways. We all know if Luigis in it his FS will be a green version of Marios FS or something similar.

Yes, I know, but his Final Smash is basically just stopping the person escaping while using a weapon to attack. It wouldn't make much difference what weapon that was.

um yeaah it would visually itll be different or similar not exactly the same and links FS is called Triforce smash? not triforce trap. They are both from same franchise i think tehwy should have something at least related.