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Lord Metritutus wrote:
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Yeah, but does it really need to do double damage and need a 66% damage mitigation to attain that goal? I mean come on man >_> it basically makes a Sentry indestructible because there will likely be another engie repairing it, plus the damage reduction, PLUS it's being controlled by a Human... It takes 3 rockets NOW to kill a Sentry, so make that 5 or 6 and that isn't going to happen with.... Sentries are going to be friggen ridiculous for ages >_>


It loses the automatic targeting ability, the engineer must remain close to it in order to manually target it, and manual targetting is only as good as the aim of the engineer. That's a pretty big nerf to balance the other benefits.


I refuse to believe "Aim" is a reasonable nerf. You have to be fairly accurate with most weapons in TF2 anyway, it's not a hard feat to get Engies who will be able to clear out a few people all at once with decent aiming. Either way, it depends on the viewpoint of wher ethe Wrangler takes you.

Do you go out of body and assume the view of the Sentry gun? Or do you stay as the engie and point at stuff? Either way, it doesn't matter about the self targeting when a human is doing it :/

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DHR-107 wrote:
I refuse to believe "Aim" is a reasonable nerf. You have to be fairly accurate with most weapons in TF2 anyway, it's not a hard feat to get Engies who will be able to clear out a few people all at once with decent aiming. Either way, it depends on the viewpoint of wher ethe Wrangler takes you.

Do you go out of body and assume the view of the Sentry gun? Or do you stay as the engie and point at stuff? Either way, it doesn't matter about the self targeting when a human is doing it :/


A human cannot see behind themselves without looking around, a sentry has 360 degree vision.

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TF2 is still a noob friendly game.

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Lord Metritutus wrote:
DHR-107 wrote:
I refuse to believe "Aim" is a reasonable nerf. You have to be fairly accurate with most weapons in TF2 anyway, it's not a hard feat to get Engies who will be able to clear out a few people all at once with decent aiming. Either way, it depends on the viewpoint of wher ethe Wrangler takes you.

Do you go out of body and assume the view of the Sentry gun? Or do you stay as the engie and point at stuff? Either way, it doesn't matter about the self targeting when a human is doing it :/


A human cannot see behind themselves without looking around, a sentry has 360 degree vision.


Who builds a sentry gun right out in the open? Where it can be attacked from behind? Very few people....

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This will be incredibly fun!!! I can't even begin to think of the things that me and Dan will get up to :D

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All 100 wrenches have been found and the next part of the update is out.

ANOTHER Payload map and an interesting weapon.

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The new weapon is nice, an offensive engie weapon. The mini sentry damage seems a bit weak, though.

EDIT: Blog post

http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=4048&p=1

Stump? Heh, self surgery for the engie it seems.

And the news:

http://store.steampowered.com/news/4043/

Another map, community CP map.

I presume the funky wrench is the "southern hospitality".

A few other tweaks.

The achieve list now also has descriptions.

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Nice :)
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don't like.
i find the idea of storing crits is to be incredibly retarded, as if 2fort wasn't engie dominated enough...
reg seems to be worse, to the point where a headshot wont always reg on a stationary engie mending his sentry. yet it will leave the sign of damage on his face.

i'm considering uninstalling the game :/

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The blood on people is a client side effect, so whilst it looks legitimate to you, the server thinks otherwise.

I do agree though that the reg is awful.

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Is there a free weekend coinciding with the update?

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