Now that the 5870 has been released, it's time to find out some more and discuss the new Nvidia chip known only as GT300 at this point in time.

So let me start the discussion:



Damn Canadians

They need something special to bring themselves back now, should be interesting.

The speculation is that it is only just better then their previous stuff.

Will be nice for ATI to win this gen, may mean AMD gets some monies to improve. (I don't like monopolies)

ATi pretty much pwned the last gen comprehensively.

I rather that Nvida Litrally completly owned the market( i like monoplies )

but then they wouldnt push themselves to make awsomes gcards

Monopolies are bad, no competition means poor products and high prices.

i think they should merge together and make the ultimate chip

Wouldn't happen

Market share and money wise, no.




ATI are still paying royalties to nvidia.

Darn IC's being patentable.

I'm pretty sure they increased their market share, didn't they?

What like AMD having to pay royalties to make x86 chips

That may be what I'm thinking of, but I think ati has infringed on some unused nvidia patent as well.

And Skillers, it's hard to say really but when the majority of the market is for laptop nabs which use either intel ig or nvidia "wanna be" cards then I would say, not so much.

The steam survey still says ati is at 27% and 59(ish)% of all cards are dx10 capable I would say their has been a dramatic increase in ati sales. I mean they did well this generation, but nvidia was still selling cheap 9XXX series. And alot of WOW players (read nabs) wont upgrade for a while, since they're set with their Q6600/8800gts (anecdotally from friends and forum people).

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/

Edit: Actually it appears the nvidia 8 series was updated to use dx10, forgot about it even though I used it in farcry on my old 8800gt.

I hope this nvidia chip is not insanely expensive and it sounds like it may be, if it's completely new. If ATI can deliver good performance for 20-40% cheaper, they will win. Regardless if nvidia wins the single board battle.

Too True!!

More news coming today according to Fudo:

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15741/1/

Spec is out:

512 shader cores (Nvidia will brand this as a 512 cuda core processor)
3 Billion transistors
384-bit memory interface
1MB L1 cache
768KB L2 cache
up to 6GB of GDDR5
DirectX 11 compliant

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15756/1/

Sounds expensive. I recently bought a transistor for less then 50 pence.

Quick math 50 x 3000000000.

Oh dear.



I hope they found some that fell of the back of a lorry. Other wise it's gonna cost a BOMB.

Poor comedy there Scottie

I think you mis-understood my attempt to convey the potential price of over 3 BILLION transistors into a some sort of lowly satire piece.

Come to think of it I certainly hope they are using the American Billion (one thousand million) and not the British Billion (One Million Million).

Edit: I am really tired.

I thought there was only one kind of billion.

Nah, there's two, but the English one (10^12) is commonly called a trillion.

Also, your point is kind of moot, Scottie, seeing as the type of transistor is very different, being that the one you bought for 50p would be a much higher capacity transistor (higher voltage and current) and is made differently. Screening transistors onto silicon is actually pretty cheap per transistor, when you do enough.

I'm pretty sure Nvidia have 'buying power' anyway

Update: Pictures of the card unveiled, although low quality... Fudzilla captured them first.

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15762/1/

Also, Nvidia has confirmed the specification: http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15757/1/

Also, INQ has an interesting article on the new GPU war: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/new ... dy-gpu-war

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GT300 architecture: http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=789

Nvidia Fermi site: http://www.nvidia.com/object/fermi_architecture.html - I won't lie to you the video is quite impressive

Fermi is faster than the 5870 in games: http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15783/1/

Fermi will ship this year: http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15784/1/