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Ok as a brief summary my two top choice currently are:-

The Samsung P 2250
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http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164043

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http://accessories.euro.dell.com/sna/pr ... sku=205467

Opinions? i'm gonna buy on thursday providing i have enough money ^_^

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No idea, but the Samsung has more pixels. Read some reviews is probably the best idea.

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I've been put off Samsung's after receiving my SM2233BW.

I would go for the Dell monitor. It has much higher image quality although the resolution is 1680x1050. This is the better monitor for your graphics card.

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your thinking of gaming purposes and yes it would be, in that resolution, but ill just play the game in a lower resolution though so my card can take it. the lavendar has 2ms and 50,000:1 in 1080 in fact im considering an extra £20 for the 23" version of it.

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I honestly suggest reading reviews rather than specs. Specs on monitors are very misleading and all the companies rate them differently (some response is measured black-white, while others are grey-grey, which is naturally faster etc).

You can only get a decent comparison of image quality from reviews and people who have them or similar models from the same series.

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The good points of the Dell G2210 far outweigh the bad points.

From Cnet, let's look at the bad:
The Dell G2210 is plainly designed, lacks ergonomic features, and doesn't have an HDMI connection. Also, unlike the G2410, it's not Full HD.

So it's basically a standard 22 inch PC monitor. It's not a TV or whatever, just a monitor.

Also from Cnet, the good:
The LED backlit Dell G2210 offers stellar all-around performance at a low price. Also, its onscreen display is intuitively designed and includes unique energy consumption options.

This makes it an awesome monitor. LED backlit makes a huge difference. You will regret buying anything with a CCFL. I regret buying my Samsung. You'll walk in to PC World in a few months time and think, "Wow, why are these monitors so cheap and why do they have such a better picture than mine?" and the answer will be in the LED's. This is why it is worth the additional £30.

Also: Power consumption on the G2210 is <18W compared to the Samsung's 40W. Just another benefit of LED backlighting.

I just have a bit of a grudge against Samsung monitors at the moment... go with what you feel is best.

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You will regret buying anything with a CCFL.

You said the above please un acronym it as i dont follow, plus the lavebndar is LCD backlit :/

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Max Resolution:
1680 X 1050 at 60 Hz
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1000:1 standard contrast ratio (typical)
Up to 1,000,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio (typical)
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250 cd/m2 (typical)
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posted form dell site. I believe the brightness and response time is worse than my current choice and the resolution has a low refresh rate.

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CCFL = Cold Cathode Fluorescent Light, or something. Like those light tubes you can buy. With LEDs they place a lot of LEDs around the screen, giving an even lighting. With CCFLs they put a big long ones at the top and bottom, which gives "bleed" effects. I get them on this monitor, the top and bottom can look washed out, especially when showing dark.

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Doesn't look like the Lavender is LED backlit to me. Can't seem to find much information on it at all. I'm pretty sure if it were LED backlit, it would be branded as such.

Update: My 3007WFP-HC had a 6ms response time and I never noticed any motion blur / dithering etc. I don't think it's a very important statistic. I believe manufacturers use this response time statistic to pump up their prices.

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hmm the lavendar is very new though skillers so theirs no reviews i can find yet hence the difficulty of deciding.

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I can't even find it on the Samsung website :(

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lol own website doesn't support it.

one problem with the Dell aaron is it's stats feel slightly worse than the lavenders well ok mainly that 60hz refresh worries me :/

But my main problem is that it's £205 pound something that would wipe meclean for a month :(

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Most monitors, especially TFTs, have a 60Hz refresh rate. It shouldn't be a problem.

The reason CRTs had a problem with low refresh is that the pixels would fade, but they don't on TFTs. With a CRT, a 60Hz refresh rate would mean each pixel would be updated 60 times every second (which could cuase headaches as it would have a very slight flickering effect), whereas on a TFT it just means it's like having a constant 60FPS. Considering TV is 24FPS, it's not a problem.

As for stats, ignore them. They are all pretty meaningless as companies test differently, and quite often they are much higher than would ever be necessary.

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If I were to go for a new monitor, I would pick the G2410 for the 24 inch LED goodness.

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but your forgetting it's out of my price range by loads!

This isn't about a nw moniter whats the best this also has to consider what money is worth what and reviews are good for the dell 22" but it just doesn't make me wanna do backflips worth £50 more than i was initially spending, and at £167 the lavander was a strech of £20 :/ so its just infuriating a little being told how good it is and how nice 24" would be but not much practical information.

I'm sorry maybe im jut missing it because somethign in this topic is really bugging me and maybe it's aarons complete utter dismissal of samsung moniters bar older ones in times past.

Reffering to skillers point, stats are meaningless so it wouldn't matter too much except looks of what i want sat on my desk in powered off mode :/

Pre-Edit before i EDIT: Maybe a few real life events are makign me more aggrivated than normal and i'm sorry. I thank you both for explaining various things about monitors too me.

If we continue Aaron is there any real world examples or explanations of how this Dell would stand out, and i don't mean bleed effects i rarely notice stuff like that. but clarity i suppose importantly. Meanwhle i'll also hunt down this info and more reviews

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If you're narrowed it down to those 2 personally I'd go for the cheapest. I don't notice anything when it comes to monitors tbh.

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My Samsung monitor has treated me pretty well for £99.99 :/

Some issues every so often, but thet are more than fixable :)

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No offence taken and none intended also.

I would wait until you can afford something better, or wait for reviews to come out for the Lavender. Are you really desperate for a new monitor?

Might just be me but... these new Samsung monitors don't look good next to PC's. They belong in a living room or something, but not an office or bedroom in my opinion. I've given up dusting mine off now.

Oh, and one thing I can say about all Samsung monitor stands: Flimsy and cheap.

Edit: Differences between standard CCFL backlit and LED backlit screens are not evident when you view photos of the monitors on review sites. You need to see it to believe it. It is extremely noticeable, probably one of the first things you notice is the screen... My manager's Latitude E series and my workmates Sony Vaio Z series use LED backlit screens - it's the first thing you notice... the image quality is just astounding.

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One thing I can say about my crappy Dell (it was a really cheap one I got in a rush, has HORRIFIC backlight bleed) - It has a nice stand.

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All Dell's I have used have very decent stands. The 3007WFP-HC especially because it was metal instead of plastic.

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im sorry there is in fact no rush but i get very excited when i can get something i like :D

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well samsung are good yes

but im looking at Dell alot more :/ and in fact this topic is minorly irrelevant because i'm not getting either of those now.

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Dell 2409

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/149662

link there i bel;ieve i shall purchase it v soon like tonight soon.

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