Well yes and no.

An update would be nice especially the moniter.

It will save my dad money though as i could give him my current PC we'll check the graphics card and probably get it workable for my sister

I'm getting it ^_^ now i need to work out this credit thing for pay in 6 months interest free.


EDIT: OMG i got declined o.0

Mum says i have too good of a credit rating and the company woudln't profit form me.

Ok stuff this, i had enough of the CUBE247 company even if they claim to have a good deal ^_^

I don't get motherboards. Should i get a bundle? or just motherboard and processor seperatly?

If seperate help me understand what i'm looking for in a motherboard for it being quad core and graphics card for hd 4870.

You need to set what you want from a motherboard. Do you want a small mATX one or a full size ATX one? DO you want to overclock? How much money have you got?

A good place to start is GigaByte for budget mobos and Asus for moderate priced mobos.

well i'm looking at quad core, and i mean if i can use ODZ 2GB of DDR3 RAM i think thats good.

I am looking at a full size as i don't understand micro aren't they worse to some degree?

I've never overclocked before and i doubt i'll need to with a quad core, at least for some time anyway.

I haven't budgetted but i could go to a thousand or more 'overall' over the month i suppose o.0

2GB DDR3? Don't bother, get 4GB DDR2, it will be better for you, and cheaper (I think). It also means more motherboards available.

Yeah, most mATXs are worse than full ATX, I have the only one that isn't, AFAIK. (DFI LP JR P45-T2RS).

in that case theres also a 4 GB (2X2GB) ODZ RAM pack for 55 or so, but it's 800 Mhz or something.

EDIT: link: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/146049

i heard i have to get a similar 800Mhz Motherboard, or better board and RAM.

I swear they made motherboards to weed out the technical from the *I'll go to PC World and get a bundle* people.

800MHz is fine for all modern processors. Modern processors run a maximum of 666MHz syncronous without overclocking. It will run asyncronous to get the better of the RAM.

Motherboards do not care what MHz the RAM is, they just care what type (DDR2 or 3) it is. They will detect what it's meant to be and run at that.

Basically, get any Asus motherboard that supports your processors (socket, LGA775 for the Intels), and RAM (DDR2) and you will do fine. I would suggest a P45 mobo, as they are the most recent midrange chipsets.

I'm only finding ones with P35 chipsets

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143172

except this one thats expensive and confusing

EDIT: Scrap that i found this one o.0

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/145751
UNEDIT EDIT: This processor atm: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/145312

arent xeons designed for servers though?

(Dont take me asking that as gospal though kyhas, im not the expert)

and i'm worse than you ^_^ ebuyer is confusing and lacks filter searchs to my knowledge

EDIT: Thanks Si you are correct i believe

Standard?: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/131950

Better?: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/148545

More expensive than last?: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/144953

The Q6600 i believe would be an entry quad core? 2.4GHz is good per core, but runs on a 65nm process so would be hotter.

The Q9400 is a newer 45nm one so would run cooler and also runs at 2.66GHz per core. The only difference I see between the Q9400 and the Q9450 is that the Q9450 has double the amount of L2 cache (12 MB instead of 6), which means... (thats as far as my intel goes)

The Q9400 will be fine and represents good value for money.

I still would recommend the Q6600 though. It's a good processor and it's dirt cheap. You can pick it up for about £120 it seems these days.

I have a Q6600, and I'm perfectly satisfied. After a night of TF2ing it is still running sub 50C, though I haven't OCed it yet.

Q6600 is, tbh, a bargain right now. The Q94(5/0)0 are better, but they cost 50-80% more, and you do not get that much more performance.

Si, the extra cache means it has quick access to more data, rather than having to go all the way to the RAM to fetch it.

Personally, as I already did, I would go for the Q6600 and save some cash, the 9400 is still good value, just not really necesary.

Thank you that decides it, i should just remember to get a case with plenty of fan slots this time to keep it cool.

If you haven't noticed i'm going for ebuyer mostly to save on P&P or anything ^_^. Plus it's better than some places i've seen

Of my current computer, everything except the mobo and the old things are from eBuyer (they didn't have the mobo I wanted). They are a good shop with some of the best prices.

Here goes nothing:-

SUMMARY!!!

Motherboard: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/145751

Processor: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/131950

RAM: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/146049

HDD: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143288

Graphics Card: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/148467

Speakers: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/133295 - On hold for more money

PSU: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/114941

Case: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/118268

Operating system: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/123047

Total Cost at Present: £803.36

Good system and all parts compatible, good job

Are you sure a sound card is definitely required though? The motherboard has audio built in.

I know, the sound card is NOT required, but i wonder what they actually do and thought it be ok to get one. I mean apart form the 100 pound saving is there another reason to not get one?

The £100. A cheaper Creative Xi-Fi wouldn probably be better.

The PSU is a bit naff, get a better one, like a Corsair. A modular one is very useful too.

Good case choice.

You might want to consider 64bit Windows, 32bit doesn't support 4GB RAM (unless it's changed), and 2GB RAM isn't much good with Vista.

I'm not sure how good the custom cooler on the graphics card is.

looking for other PSU's atm, and the 64 bit version is so expensive :O

Is it worth premium or basic home edition?

The 64bit is the same price, but they're out of stock of the single licence edition.

You MUST get Premium, Basic is rubbish beyond belief (loads of important features disabled).

As for PSU, look for 500W+ and around £50+. Make sure you get a decent brand.

This is stupid o.0 upgrade packs, OEM over twice as much for 64 bit, full products >.<

I swear i'm looking in the 600-800W area though to power everything.

Also i see what you mean about sold out, but it'll be so expensive to get vista not OEM .

It will be back in stock soon, knowing eBuyer.

As for the wattage, 600W is what I have for a pretty similar system, but I went more than necessary because I'm going to overclock. 500W will be fine, but 600W would be good. Get a modular PSU, and a good brand. I would recommend the Corsair HX620. It's ~£90, but a 700W £40 one will be more like 300W.