E2 was easy apart from the last battle O.o

That was hard

The last battle in Ep2 is fantastic. Overall, the game is kinda easy, but the AI is improved and the Hunters have a tendancy of just appearing and smashing you around.

lol well i still need to complete. not cos its hard, jst been playing other games instead

Crysis is currently my favourite online game.

That's nothing to do with The Orange Box tho...

Anyway, will be playing TF2 on the 360 in a mo, need to get live up and running etc

So awesome, playing with Nicholai!

pc tf2 > 360 tf2

Well yeah obv... but i cant play PC TF2... so its the next best thing....

I tried playing Crysis MP, was a tad too complicated. Plus I haven't even got far with the SP.

Yes, the PC version will be better, but when you can only play the 360 version, you might aswell!

indeed.

do u need to have an xbox live subscription to play online tf2, jst a q i was wondering about.

Yeah.... You need Gold Membership to play anything online on the 360....

yeh, bt tf2 is an online game, u still need to pay money for the right to play it online?!!?!?

Yep

£30 a year isnt to bad, seeing as I get to play anything else online too... UnderTow, Colin McRae DiRT, BurnOut Paradise... etc etc.... Its a good system

I don't see the point of that... paying for the internet to play it on ok, but the right to play online has to cost... that just sucks.

yes, live is v well setup, i cant really afford £30 cos i dnt really play it much, so not value for money

and it does get a bit steep looking at things like steam being free, bt i guess if u pay it lots its worth it

I'm just dreading when MS try to force PC users to pay it. Luckily they won't get far as Steam won't be pay for. However, MS are trying to get people to, cos the stuff like GoW needs gold to play ranked online, but we still get normal online.

i hate greedy corporations.

tho they argue they need the money to invest in R&D, bt i say tht would be recovered in the price of games being much higher than what it costs to be produced..

I see as being worth it, it means i can play online with many people on a system that I have free access too...

Im probs online every night.... so its worth it

That... and if it was pay to play... people would just crack it anyway

Actually, I would think that half the people would boycott Steam ("why do we have to pay for something we already own") if it cost too much. A small price they might get away with, but I think that would go against Valve's philosophy anyway.

having to pay a subscription is too much of a hassle for me, u should have to pay once to buy the game and thts it (if needs be put the price up slightly - bt def. no subscription)

I can understand it with MMOs, personally, as you are paying for a lot of servers and constant updates (to expansion packs levels), but I don't like MMOs that release paid for expansion packs and make you pay for subscription, as the costs become more than ridiculous then. However, the Live system doesn't even pay money back to the games you're playing, and seems to pay for only the Live servers, which, from what I've heard, don't seem to be too reliable.

Anyway, wasn't this about a certain Orange Box?

Yea ima gona have to get TF2 weather its with Orange box or not.. i need to plan how i can get it. im not sure if this labtop is good enough for TF2 but my bro comp is... but hes mean so i cant use it. Hence i have to wait for a while until then

I'd recommend the full Orange Box, it's only a bit more expensive and has a lot more value.

What are your lappy's specs?

if it can play css, then it will prob b able to play tf2, jst a guess!

TF2 uses a newer version of the source engine. There will besome things that can play css but not TF2.