wow!

Constructive post! I take it you've got it then?

I've heard Konami (I think) has been asking reviewers to not mention the length of the cutscenes and install in reviews, which has got some sites not reviewing it on principle. Bad practice by Konami, IMO.

Related to that, I've heard that some cutscenes are rediculously long - kinda defats it being a game IMO.

Also, does anyone have any idea why they used full lossless sound formats? It's completely pointless. I guess it's just so they could say something about the size of Blu-Ray.

-moved to games for obvious reasons-

So Will. Tell me about MGS4 for the ps3... i may get it if i am purswaded..

Snake is very old, so old he probablt puts hs back out alot. he goes after a guy with the worlds military at his command......

I mean why the worlds? why give him all this power if he can't be trusted >.>

the cut scenes are long, but MGS is basically a movie that you play and i think it works very well.
it is in fact, the best story and game in the history of the universe... ever


*spoilers from earlier games and basis info from MGS4* they didn't give him control, its hard to explain because there are hours of cut scenes through the series on the topic.
basically war has become the basis that supports the global economy. Soldiers use ID guns, gear, equipment, medication etc. in an attempt to prevent the enemy from using your weapons against you.
war is now a series of proxy wars between PMC's.
the 5 largest or which are controlled by a single mother company owned by the antagonist.

the ID system (and basically every other system in the world) is secretly controlled by a group of people known as the patriots, who's power exceeds that of the president of the united sates and who's influence reaches every corner of the globe.
the Antagonist of the game managed to hijack one of there systems, with it, he can literally turn off any opposing army. fear is basically what allowed him to become so powerful.

i've beat the game 5 times now, starting the 6th, it doesnt get old

Have you seen the cutscene that takes the piss out of the 360?

i think i kno the one you mean. i thought it was aimed at earlier PS models. could be thinking of a different scene?

something like we dont have to change disc because we use a high definition disc format

Heh, yeah, I saw that on YouTube. It's either taking the piss out of 360 or the older MGS games if they used multiple disks.

yeah, mgs 1 had 2 disks, i assumed they were self mocking because that cut scene is in the exact location where you had to change disks in the original.
could be mocking the 360 aswell tho. as they would need 7 disks to play MGS4 if im right it takes the whole blue ray.

It would need 5.5 DLDVDs for a full 50GB. The thing is, they REALLY don't need to put all that data on, they put stuff on at ridiculously (pointlessly) high quality on.

After beating Sniper Wolf in the snow field?! O.o MGS 4 is a remake of the first one on Shadow Moses Island? O.o

Ok, thats random.... xD As you can tell, I haven't looked at, or really even care about MGS4 atm I probs would if I had a PS4, or I had played the other 2 games O.o

Just what you siad there confused me... Because I thought it was a totally new game... Why are they back on Shadow Moses Island?

Maybe you mean they just put too much content on there, because 1080p is not pointless

They used completely uncompressed audio, and other silly things. While I agree that 1080p isn't pointless, they've gone overboard with the quality of some things, making it take up extra space pointlessly.

And DHR, I'm pretty sure its not a remake - Snake is old, for example (I don't know much else, lol).

its not a remake, but one part of the game calls for you to revisit shadow moses.
the quality is awesome but maybe slightly overkill.
one of the items you get in game in an IPod, i suspect the audio quality is party due to that (it completely overpowers whats going on in the game, and blows your head off at any volume). the crack of running around with a Rail gun whilst listening to crazy Japanese's pop music is without comparison.

they could have also kept the quality to convince people that Blue ray is needed, and you should basically throw away your xbox coz its OBV GAY LOL!, which i think someone already said?

I HAVE METAL GEAR SOLID 1 ON PS1 AND MGS2 ON PC BUT WHY WERENT MGS3 AND 4 RELEASED ON PC!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!? THIS PISSES ME OFF

Quality =/= volume.

Basically, they've left everything in uncompressed format, which takes up loads of room, about 10x as much as a good quality compressed format. If you can hear a difference between 192kbps MP3s and uncompressed WAV formats, you have very good hearing. And a very expensive sound system. Most games used compressed sounds because it's all that's needed.

Of course, videos are another matter, compression is much easier to see in them, but quite a lot of techniques can produce amazing results even with high compression.

Anyway, I can't really make more comments than that, because I don't have it and don't know the quantity of material actually in it, but actually requiring a full Blu-Ray for more than the sake of doing it would be quite surprising.

ive heard good things about this game

Looks really good in my opinion...

i didn't quite mean blow head off in terms of volume, i thought it sounded really good.
based on what i know about compression, it seems likely they are simply making a statement about how much the blue ray can take, as well as getting optimum quality.
i played the game at my m8's, he has a Pioneer LX01-something sound system whatever that is?

Ah, lol, just the way you mentioned volume in the brackets afterwards.

It probably is just a statement, lol.

I have no idea about that soundsystem, it's just a make (Pioneer) and model (LX01-something).

my bad lol, what i'm thinking and what i type are two completely different things usually.

=( MGS too expensive for me. Im saving up for birthdays

my mate has mgs4, he says the single player is great but the multiplayer is not that good tho.
snake looks like an old man, that was a surprise :O

rapid aging, poor guy
gr8 game tho
i finaly got my Big Boss rank the other day