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Well worth a read. It's a company that wants to make electric cars commonplace.

It's an absolutely fantastic idea and the system is really well thought out.

It's actually happening (admittedly, not here, yet).

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Electric cars. Good idea, but think about where that electricity came from.

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Read their plans. Renewable energy sources and such.

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At the moment I think we're about 90% fossil fuel though.

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The idea is that when they implement, they go whole hog and make sure they get it from renewable sources/build their own. The world will be so much better off when fusion is harnessed properly.

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Hmph, humans get the maximum reward for the least amoun of energy, it is the way of the humans.
That is why we are burning fossil fuels: it is too much an effort to NOT use them and focus efforts on other ways to get energy.
It is a good idea and I back it up completely, but I await the day when the events of Spiderman 2 become a reality, without the tentacles malfunctioning and the sun not functioning properly... 4 mechanical arms on my back would be great.

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It is an effort not to use them because that's what we're set up to do. However, it's becoming more and more energy to actually use them. Renewable and Nuclear (fusion preferably, but fission is good) power is the way to go.

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What about the waste products from Nuclear power? Radioactive waste takes ages to become safe to be released... what is your response to that, President Skillers of this new world?
(note: this isn't me speaking but the public who are anti-nuclear)

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For fission, the waste is an acceptable side effect, and can be contained and disposed fairly easily. It is of less concern than all the waste other power sources produce.

for fusion, it is clean, the heaviest element it produces is iron, which is perfectly safe. Most the production is Helium and other small atoms.

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I have been lied to by my physics teachers who told me that all waste of nuclear power is dangerous... actually it was just one physics teacher who lied to me... and commented I'm a random error in physics sense... he shall pay for his crimes.
Sounds good then. Lead on President Skillers, lead on and I shall follow.

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Fission does produce dangerous waste, and disposing of it safely requires care, but it's not as dangerous as made out to be.

Random point of interest - law forbids the building of power plants in Cornwall because the background radiation from the granite rocks all over Cornwall is greater than the maximum allowed radiation level for a nuclear power plant (outside the actual reactor, of course).

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Cars can run on hydrogen.

Why even bother with electric cars, when you can use hydrogen? Infact, you can already drive them, and they have the same performance like normal cars, unlike electric ones.

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:doh: The hydrogen cars are just electric cars that generate their electricity from hydrogen. And electric cars do have good performance now!

The only advantage h cars have over battery cars is the instant refill, which this addresses. Normal battery cars are more efficient, I think.

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Yes. Hydrogen is like fuel, get it, thats why it's actually any good.

Electric cars need electricity, Hydrogen is not going to run out anytime in the next, oh a billion years, not the same can be said for most fuels.

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Hydrogen has to be harvested (usually by electrolysis of water). And the hydrogen cars are still electric. It's just a way of storing energy.

This system is actually better. It's more efficient, requires cheaper infrastructure and is less dangerous.

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I agree, if they implemented this in the UK I would get an electric car when I needed a car. It has started to be implemented in some other places, though.

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Can we not do fusion because we arnt capable of keeping a magnetic feild steady at a large scale to hold it whilst happening?

Bang rocks together at really high speeds - fusion?

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We can do fusion, just we have 2 problems;

It's either in bomb form, or...

The energy input required to keep it stable is greater than the energy output.

I'm not sure if magnetic fields have anything to do with it, but seems reasonable.

And yes, if the rocks are small atoms like hydrogen (well, deuterium, you need the extra neutron).

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Ah, bombs could work... any spare countries we dont need?

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Yes steve it is the magnetic field. skillers is right bought energy input/output but at soe point in the amgnetic field holding this fusion thingie at like 10,000 degrees or something like that, i think it might be way bigger.. but at some point in the magnetic field theres a break and then it all falls out and vapourises the metal floor etc etc :-). Not such a scientific explanation but hope it will do. Skillers will probs give u a detailed explanation iff u ask him. i may even be wrong ^^

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